Hi @cmugnolo, you have a similar situation to mine perhaps. Thanks so much in advance! Clomid is cheap, easy to take (oral), drives less risk of OHSS, but is less effective. Hi there. Ovarian Stimulation Baseline Ultrasound This is the oldest IVF protocol and is especially effective in preventing premature ovulation during the cycle. And I think EPP is the standard at CCRM as well for DOR ladies. Candice maybe11 129 Dec 08, 2009 #3 Hi, From NE Ohio to North Central Mississippi, everyone has their own ideas and preferences for what they will plant this year. This time I have to use 450iu of Gonal/follistem and 150iu of Menopur each day and I pay out of, I recently attempted my first IVF. I just had my ER last week: stimmed for 13 days, started ganerilix on stim day 8, retreived 7 eggs, 3 were mature, 3 fertilized, 1 blastocyst was frozen today on day 5 and I have 2 morulas that will bhopefully be frozen tomorrow as long as they are blastocysts. I would ask your doctor, but I guess you just do nothing while preparing for the cycle. How many follicles were you usually starting with? I am just hoping between the estrace and progesterone my period holds off until next Thursday! Estrogen priming is a protocol used during in vitro fertilization (IVF) to facilitate a more gradual and coordinated growth of follicles in the ovary in women with diminished ovarian reserve (DOR). How does a micro-flare protocol differ from mini IVF vs natural cycle? I used two patches a dayandchanged the patches every third day. I think the stims usually last longer with EPP, but my quality was much better. No it's not a "low dose" protocol exactly. I would be doing a low stim protocol with estrogen priming. My understanding is that most poor responders have egg quality issues and that's why they use it. As a result, most fertility doctors shoot to retrieve 15 to 20 mature eggs per cycle. However, for poor responders many doctors worry such a long duration of suppression can hurt outcomes. For free! Our mission is to be a trusted partner in helping you understand your reproductive health and to support and empower the choices you make along the way. I'd love to hear from women of "advanced (advanced !) We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. BabyCenter may earn a commission from shopping links. I was 41 at SG and they also put me on BCPs and i knew it was going to oversupress me -- and it did. I tried it and it seemed to help with even follicle growth but so some reason I had less eggs in the follicles than prior cycle when I was on bcp first? Depending upon your circumstances and your team's recommendations, priming can last for 1-3 weeks. DS was born June 22nd, 2007!!!!! I know you ladies all have your own stuff going on and I feel terrible asking but I dont know who else to askBarb, penny, joy, anyone else, Ive read that an estrogen priming protocol is good for DOR women, do you know if this is true? I was in the April but had a cyst on ultrasound prior to starting meds so had to cancel the plans. I have had 4 failed ivf cycles on the short antagonist protocol which all failed, 3 out of the 4 cycles I had 1 average embryo which resulted in chemical pregnancies and 1 cycle I had nothing to. Julie, will be KMFX for you and those embryos! I was on bcps and Lupron the first ivf. I have been doing some research and reading and I was reading that for older patients, a different protocol where less meds are used is usually recommend. First round I had few follicles 10 and scattered growth after taking bcp before cycles for about 13 days; Tried epp round after that, and had more synchronized growth with same number of follicles. 2nd IVF/ICSI age 42 : Menopur 425; 2 eggs; 2 fertislised; transfer day 5; BFN I just had my first IVF and it was unsuccesful. This clinic is more generous with freezing, so they tested and froze a few other blasts as well, which the other clinic would have thrown out. This will be my first IVF round and I w, Hi All, It is used on lowish amh patients and those who respond poorly to drugs which affect their lining. I am, Hi Ladies! Very helpful! day 1 of cycle/protocol: (day 2 of menses): cetrotide 0.125 mg subcutaneously 4 estradot patches (estradot patches to be stopped when lead follicle was greater or equal to 1.5 cm) days 2 and 3 of cycle: 600 iu gonal f 0.125 mg cetrotide days 4 - 6 of cycle: 525 iu gonal f 0.125 mg cetrotide days 7 - 11 of cycle: 225 iu gonal f 0.125 cetrotide Whats important to stress here is that just because some low dose approaches drive comparable rates of success to conventional approaches, that doesnt mean all low-or-no dose approaches are effective. You currently have javascript disabled. The last cycle, I was able to produce 10 eggs but only 2 made it to transfer. During my IVF cycle (still in the middle of it), Dr. K's 21 day estrogen priming protocol with 300 iu menopur seemed to have done the trick with 29 follicles (19 of which were bigger). Estrogen priming is a protocol used during in vitro fertilization (IVF) to facilitate a more gradual and coordinated growth of follicles in the ovary in women with diminished ovarian reserve (DOR). As you can see below, amongst women with PCOS, the Antagonist protocol drives comparable success rates but with far lower risk of hyperstimulation. Are you wanting to learn more about the IVF process? The doctor just wants to make sure you dont release an egg while getting your body ready for a retrieval or transfer. Northwestern Medicine. Avery & Sydney born June 12/11 at 30w1d. - Longdom Anyone with very low AMH do the estrogen priming and have a good response? As you can see below, the odds of success (green line) continue to rise as more eggs are retrieved, until about 15 - 20 eggs, at which point the odds of success stop climbing and the risk of developing ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome, or OHSS, (pink line) skyrockets. Transfer was canceled. I mean, you could try to get pregnant naturally, since as far as I know taking estrogen priming (particularly Estrace medication) should not harm your fetus if you were to become pregnant. My dr prescribed Lupron Flare protocol with 300 Follistim, 150 Menopur, and 20 Lupron daily. We use data about you for a number of purposes explained in the links below. Changed MD's and now this is the protocol they have in place for me. Similarly, many doctors believe low dose approaches work equally well as high dose approaches on women who are likely to be hyper responders. These are women who have a high AMH or had a high number of eggs retrieved in a previous cycle. My story: I'm 34, DH 32. I am praying this makes a huge difference. I was on BCP for 15 years and when I went off them I never got my period. Now this is a guesstimated number. The deadline for sending in seeds was October 15th, but there are still plenty of ways to get involved. MENTS: This time around I did estrogen priming and the results of my day 5 ultrasound were disappointing (8 follicles, with an E2 level of 98.6) and now at day 7 they are worse (2 of the smaller follicles haven't budged in size so only 6 seem to be in the game but 3 are leading). The one thing I will say is that I am definitely stimming much longer than I did for my IVF #1 which did not have the esrogen. Below is a meta-analysis of 17 (relatively small) studies that, taken together, show the strategies have nearly identical pregnancy rates. Patients undergoing a MFP required more injections (40 vs. 26) than an EPP and spent an average of $4,375.00 compared to EPP patients who spent $5,485.00. Typically, you also add other stims once you start your cycle, too (Menopur, GonalF), so those could be in high doses. Estrogen Priming is completely different, so therefore without birth control pill.I would ask your doctor, but I guess you just do nothing while preparing for the cycle. It's a horrifyingly traumatic experience. I did a low stim ivf (225 menopur & 100 mg clomid) with human growth hormone which is what my fertilty clinic does for women over 40 and poor responders. By clicking sign up, you agree to receive emails from FertilitySmarts and agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. They want to try the Estrogen Priming protocol with estrace and prometrium for almost 4 weeks before the stim cycle. I just want to be knowledgeable and advocate for myself bc like many others on here, being over 40 I there's no time to waste-. I might have ovulated rather than had empty follicles. After 5 days of estrogen priming Follitropin alpha (Gonal F, 600 IU/day, s.c.) is started. I then did 450 gonal-F and 150 menopur for 12 or 13 days, using ganirelix as well. Estrogen Priming Protocol: For some women, especially for those who have diminished ovarian reserve, it becomes necessary to help the response to the Antagonist protocol. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. Most of the encouraging studies have been in poor responders, but because the trials were so small, most never met statistical significance. Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. I will have retrieval hopefully this weekend and will let you know what happens. I then did 450 gonal-F and 150 menopur for 12 or 13 days, using ganirelix as well. However, given some of the additional features for each protocol (for example, the duration of suppression), some patients might find one preferable to the others. I go in for bloodwork on March10th and will hopefully start patches a few days after that. 1st IVF/ICSI age 41 : Gonal F 300; 3 eggs; 2 fertilised; transfer day 5; BFN 14 retrieved, 9 mature, 5 fertilized normally, 2 grew to the 2-cell stage then arrested, 3 did not grow beyond one cell. 13 days stim. In my case, antral follicle count is very poor, but RE decides to proceed. By: Kelly Park These include estrogen, FSH, LH and inhibin amongst many others. Editorial Review Policy. OHSS can be both painful and dangerous. 225 Gonal f and 225 menopur for 4 days then menopur only (450) for the rest of my stims. Froze 3. During the first two cycles I was on F, HelloHave been reading the boards, but have never posted. FET October 6, 2010 - this is it Lets start with how much gonadotropin to take. Slightly higher doses of Follistim and Menopur to try to get a few more eggs. Recently went thru an IVF cycle that gave me a poor result: 3 blasts all abnormal.RE suggested BCP for 21 days followed by lupron. IVF #1, we did Follistim, Menopur, Cetrotide. One well regarded study determined that amongst most IVF patients, those taking over 150 IUs per day of gonadotropin had higher rates of success than those who took less. I am only 28 with normal amh/fsh levels so we were pretty shocked and upset when we only had a couple embryos on day 3 and then nothing to freeze. How did it go with the EPP? Looking for info/success stories with Estrogen priming protocol with DOR. But there is one more protocol to consider: a flare cycle. I hav, My last ivf cycle was cancelled/converted to IUI due to being over suppressed by birth control pills. Comparing the good cycle to the other 3, I see why. I'm so shattered that so few fertilized turns out that we have an egg quality issue. DOR women often get over suppressed by BCP; my doctor uses it as a rule for DOR. My body seemed to appreciate the extra estrogen. IVF #5 was EPP and HGH. Is a micro-dose lupron protocol considered a low-dose protocol? Dont know what. it's 1 week since last patch. In some cases, priming may not be required. I mean, you might be lucky. Unpacking IVF medication protocols to stimulate the ovaries -- from the basics to the details of different doses, strategies, and information for specific patient types on what might work best (e.g. FET April 2009 - cancelled, embryos did not survive thaw This amounts typically to a Coke vs. Pepsi kind of decision. AMH 28. I am curious what anyone's experience has been with EPP. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. While gonadotropin is the critical drug in most every protocol, its not the only drug. Fx! I did EPP, using a climara patch every other day starting day 8 after ovulation until period came. There are several methods of pre-treatment that involves using either a combined oral contraceptive pill, progestogen or estrogen. You can see my sig. Today, most IVF cycles use a frozen transfer whereby embryos are frozen and transferred at least a month after the retrieval. I had success with EPP after failing with other protocols. I'm wondering if, 5/15 I did EPP with my 3rd cycle and it didn't help. 14 retrieved, 9 mature, 5 fertilized normally, 2 grew to the 2-cell stage then arrested, 3 did not grow beyond one cell. As we discussed there are drugs that stimulate follicles to grow, suppress the follicles ability to release their eggs, and then help catalyze the follicles to mature their eggs so they can be retrieved. Thanks! Some people prefer the term Diminished Ovarian Reserve or Low Egg Reserve for patients who meet this criteria, as the ovarian response to medications for this group is not always necessarily poor, but rather is simply expected to be lower at their given baseline. I also did estrogen priming with the mini. Beta 1117 Worked for me! Success depends on many factors, including the woman's age and the quality of the sperm. I credit the advice I received on this forum both from members and from experts, my infertility doctor and my push for the estrogen priming protocol for the family that I have today. It's not the same for everyone over 40. This community is sponsored by RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association, an Inspire trusted partner. SG usually sticks to their protocol for the first round, then if it fails, they'll start customizing. i read everywhere it's for "poor responders". This is caused by insufficient potassium reaching the fruit due to environmental factors such as high air/soil temperatures and overcast skies or heavy fruit load on plants with lower organic matter content in their soils. These drugs signal to the brain not to instigate ovulation. Wow that did make a huge difference for you! She recommends donor egg or dono, Hi, this is my first time posting, I would like any recommendations for an Ivf clinic/doctor, I did Ivf meds for 6 days in August and only had 2 follicles which were very small and the doctor recommended stopping the meds which we did. FertilitySmarts Inc. - For many gardeners, it starts with tomatoes. It would be great if it cleared up my skin because my skin has been terrible since my retrieval/chemical a few weeks ago! It's an estrogen priming protocol. Several functions may not work. Associate Director, REI New doctor recommended EPP to promote more even follicle growth. However, the data doesnt bare that out. I was on the highest dosage of Gonal with that cycle. It will workjust have faith! To conclude, in the group of patients . After being on BCPs for so long, it took a long time for my period to come back (it's been 5 years though now), but my cycle has still never been the same so I'm wary of BCPs. I hope a tweak of the protocol will help or maybe it was just an off cycle for me. The dose of gonadotropin matters because, generally speaking, if too little is prescribed, too few eggs are retrieved, and IVF success rates go down. In the case of the fresh transfers, you can clearly see a similar effect to what investigators found above: success rates drop with more drug. We are going to bump up my gonal f too. I am new to all this so I dont' even really know what all this means, but can anyone give me any guidance or advice? - 1st follicle check u/s and b/w. Beta 2093 Thanks for sharing your story. (This was to work with their schedule, because they are closed on the weekends.) TBD how many fertilize, etc. I just had a consultation with an RE he recommended a "estrogen priming micro-flare lupron" protocol. Good luck! Male factor, probably DOR and I am a poor responder to IVF drugs I am interested in hearing from women who have never tried to get pregnant and therefore do not have any specific infertility issue per se, other than age. This is standard practice when ordering from Ukraine, according to customers wh. IVF#2 started sept 19th to keep trying as well as using our FSA max 3 years in a row. we did another one without BCPs and that also failed. Did one cycle of IVf with 450 of gonal F and then cetrotide and ovidrel. Estrogen priming has worked both times for me. No BCP - started my period, did cycle day 2 testing FSH was good (I had high a FSH of 15 so EPP helped that) then started meds. IVF#5 July 2010 - will be using estrogen priming Started with our current RE in April 2017; diagnosis is unexplained infertility (everything came back fine for both me and my husband on all tests). Thus, for those most concerned with OHSS (like women with PCOS or high AFC or AMH), this can be an inferior option. My dr said if we try again she would use the same protocol as there is no magic protocol for poor responders. Before starting the pills, we need to wait until you are in the correct stage of your menstrual cycle (the luteal phase). IVF #2, we did estrogen priming, Follistim, Menopur, Tev Tropin (human growth hormone), Cetrotide. He also said he would start with BCPs to suppress ovulation- he explained why, but at my age that just doesn't sound like a good idea to be suppressing anything. All rights reserved. As you can see below, success rates dropped. Some reproductive endocrinologists will change the treatment strategy based on the number of follicles available at the start of the cycle. Do they use this protocol as sort of standard for someone who is starting? Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. Gonal f 225, menopur 75. Started doing the patches 10 days before my period was scheduled to start. Have questions about navigating your Inspire support community or need assistance from one of our Inspire Moderators? However other had mature egg and we did Icsi by it didn't grow from there. The first question is naturally, which protocol is more likely to deliver a baby, and when investigators looked at the two most popular strategies, Long Agonist and Antagonist, it became clear both were equally effective in the general IVF population. We're also doing PGS. Estrogen Priming Protocol- EPP Experiences - Infertility Inspire Finding a Resolution for Infertility Infertility at 40+ Finding a Resolution for Infertility Infertility Support Community in Partnership with RESOLVE Join Inspire Create a Post Estrogen Priming Protocol- EPP Experiences drgolfermd Aug 14, 2015 4:53 AM Dear All: Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. i had success with DE. After it happens, I keep receiving bills in the mail. Ivf doctor recommendation in nyc or bklyn, Low Ovarian Reserve and Poor Responder to IVF, Ladies 45 and older TTC - *infertility due to age only*. Does anyone have experience with this? We're not even 100% sure we are staying with my current clinic but I wanted to research ahead of time either way. I did estrogen and testosterone priming on my second ivf because I was oversuppressed during my first cycle. Babies due June 26, 2011 Another set of investigators looked at a variation of the same question. After my period started, my doctor kept me on the patches for five more days. I just had a consultation with an RE he recommended a "estrogen priming micro-flare lupron" protocol. Specifically, poor responders (a less than pleasant way of referring to women who produce few eggs per retrieval), do equally well taking 150 IUs of gonadotropin as 450 IUs. What To Do When PGT-A & Grading Results Conflict? maternal age" i.e. My second included BCP before stimulating and I didnt stimulate well. They are generally used for suppression in Long Lupron Protocols. Though I had 4 or 5 follicles to begin with, only ended up with one. Estrogen priming is usually matched with an antagonist to prevent ovulation. Was wonderin, I just finished my 3rd failed IVF cycle using EPP. I went to a UK FSH friendly (thank you joy for the recommendation) clinic for a consultation. Several functions may not work. I never hoped so I never even asked that question. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. Dr Sher says "oestrogen priming of FSH receptors has been reported to slow premature follicular development and to promote granulosa cell FSH receptor induction". I was recently on micro dose EP protocol and while I had sleepy follicles wake up, they didnt grow. The answer lies in the drug the protocol uses to trigger the eggs to mature so that they can be retrieved. The OOP meds program here at the Bump also was a life saver as we got meds for our 4th and 5th tries. Estrogen Priming Protocol: In some women who respond poorly to the short protocol (e.g., women diagnosed with Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)), this protocol may enhance ovarian response, perhaps by synchronizing more follicles for recruitment and retrieval. Ugh, that made me feel like I was hit by a truck. me: 37 I dont know as much about micro flare. I hope you like the protocol. Terms of Use - Most experts believe these women just dont seem to respond to increased doses and so above a pretty low threshold of gonadotropin, success rates dont seem to budge much. Recent Topics IVF#4 November 2009 - one embryo survived to day 3 transfer - BFN And finally I triggered with Novarel. However, sometimes when sliced open, white rings can appear in the flesh, a disorder known as "internal white tissue." We are OOP as well. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282. You still may have a BFP, so let's wait to see before we say it didn't work!! Estrogen Priming Protocol - Infertility Inspire Finding a Resolution for Infertility IUI / IVF and high-tech procedures Finding a Resolution for Infertility Infertility Support Community in Partnership with RESOLVE Join Inspire Create a Post Estrogen Priming Protocol blossom34 (Inactive) Sep 23, 2010 5:34 AM This was all on the phone, so not 100 percent on what the protocol would be. So I think I was on estrogen for about a couple weeks then started stimming (antagonist protocol). Pre-treatment is known to improve the response of the ovary to the stimulation cycle and also reduces the risk of ovarian cyst formation. I asked for iv antibiotics instead of the zpack because I've never taken it before and was worried about how I'd feel from it. BFP oct 16th!!! My clinic doesn't like it. On CD2 I started 300 Gonal F and 150 Menopur. Search Good Morning. 10 retrieved, 6 mature, 6 fertilized (half with ICSI), transferred two 8-cell embryos on day three (both with moderate fragmentation, graded B and C-), the four remaining arrested by day 5. Inhibin is an often overlooked hormone which suppresses (or inhibitits) the release of FSH from your brain during the last week of the cycle (FSH is the chief hormone responsible for making your eggs "grow"). As we show in the example below, during every step of IVF a certain number of eggs or embryos are lost, especially in the middle part of the funnel (growing embryos that are chromosomally normal). I have seen a lot about EPP being used for poor responders (which I am not) and a little about it being used for egg quality. Cost: $1,000. The results are below and as you can see, success rates do seem to drop off after 300 IUs per day of gonadotropin. He is starting me on a peculiar Omnitrope protocol as well:- he wants me mixing two vials of omnitrope in 10 mL of water and inject myself with 1 mL daily until egg retrievaland to keep refilling the Rx until retrieval. Any info welcomed!! He did say there are some studies that DHEA and CoQ10 could help, but the, Hi all. By and large there are two easy ways to think about protocols: how much gonadotropin (the drug that prompts follicles to grow) gets used, and what other drugs get used alongside the gonadotropin which is typically what defines a given protocol strategy. Ganirelix is contraindicated in pregnancy. By clicking sign up, you agree to receive emails from FertilitySmarts and agree to our Terms of Use & Privacy Policy. After you go off BCP theyll do a baseline bloodwork and ultrasound to see what your levels are without having drugs in your system. Waft really helped was upping gonal f and removing menopur. Estrogen priming is pretty standard for over 40. Of course, during a regular cycle most women naturally produce only a single mature egg. Just devastated with my results today so just want to cry it out and then I will respond to you. This helps to improve the outcome of the IVF cycle in patients who respond poorly to traditional IVF protocols. In that time a womans hormonal balance has been restored and so IVF cycles using a frozen transfer are more likely to work. If you did it did you have success, what is your situation, did you do pills or patches and for how long, etc.? I am 38. Back to home page. I did estrogen priming after my first Ivf cycle ended in mc (nothing to freeze) & my 2nd cycle was canceled bc I wasn't responding well to stims. Again, gonadotropin is the injectable hormone that prompts a higher number of follicles, and thus eggs, to grow at any one time. Many customers have had positive experiences ordering from them, and their customer service has been praised for keeping buyers updated on order status. I'm 36 & TTC 2 yrs. my RE is going back to the drawing board for my final IVF. Thank you for subscribing to our newsletter! Had two follicles but one disappeared day of egg retrieval. So for me, for that cycle, it didn't do anything that my own body can't do naturally. You can be assured it is a good protocol. Cool.let me know what he says if you would please. Second, this study was only done in cycles using a fresh transfer. Spandorfer said it would not suppress me to much not sure about this, need to speak with him further. I dont know much.But my RE will do EEP for my second cycle..I'm just reading alot on the net, http://estrogenprimingprotocol.blogspot.com/. Just curious to see if any out there have had any luck getting pregnant at age 43+ and produced a child through IVF. There are a number of drugs that can be tacked onto the beginning of a cycle that may increase the odds of success. Estrogen Priming is completely different, so therefore without birth control pill. It's that time of year again when gardeners all over the world are planning what to grow in their gardens. I then switched clinics. Really hope the next cycle goes well for you! Here's what you need to know about the project. Create an account or log in to participate. HI.. hope all is well. Within both, doctors can prescribe as much gonadotropin as theyd like. I also did ganirelix during this time. Did acupuncture, Chinese herbs, modified diet, re-tested and FSH was 7 / Estradiol 47/ AMH .4 What Research Says About Stress as a Cause of Infertility, 7 Ways to Help Overcome Grief after Pregnancy Loss, Sometimes Getting Pregnant is Not the Issue, From Eggs to Blastocysts: Understanding IVF Attrition, Let's Stop Arguing About Whether or Not Stress Causes Infertility, Gift Ideas For Someone Experiencing Infertility, FertilitySmarts Explains Estrogen Priming. They put me on birth control pills for a month and are skipping the early stage Estrace this time around. 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